Here - Open Dialogical Practices

Report
A B C , 1 2 3 ...
the triadic dialectics of August Deese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U
introduction
- three outta two ain’t bad
- private investigations
Hegel versus Deese : the logical song
the proof of the pudding is in the eating
- in life
... in my life
- in anthropopsychiatry ... mama weer all crazee now
- in therapy
... I don’t wanna talk about it
open dialogue
: ‘there must be some way out of here’
introduction
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=two+outta+three+ain%
27t+bad+meatloaf+official+video&oq=two+outt&gs_l=youtubereduced.1.0.0l4.88772.94253.0.100377.16.15.0.1.1.0.3457.11319.5j6j93.14.0...0.0...1ac.1.gRNsE1a2Efs
three outta two ain’t bad
dialogue  2
all good things come in threes
- structurally
in life
- clinically
private investigations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9K27HvhDxA
August Deese
Jacques Schotte
August Deese (1928 – 1988)
‘the unknown philosopher’
“c’est le philosophe le plus original et le plus important de
Fribourg depuis Heidegger” (Albert Chapelle s.j.)
(Schotte, 2006, p. 118)
It’s the most original and the most important philosopher since
Heidegger
“pas une phrase, pas un mot”
“il a tout emporté avec lui dans sa tombe”
(Schotte, 2006, p. 124)
Not a sentence, not a word
He took everything to his grave
Jacques Schotte (Ghent, 1928 – 2007, Ghent)
Hegel vs. Deese
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
(Stuttgart, 27 augustus 1770 – Berlijn, 14 november
1831)
http://www.wat.tv/video/supertramp-the-logical-song-1979-35rbx_2g9el_.html
all good things come in threes
the Hegelian dialectic
 endless repetition of itself (closed system)
the triadic dialectics of August Deese
transcends the classical dialectic, opening something new (open system)
 ‘ouverture globale’
term 1
term 2
term 3
• dialectic
relation
as such
T R A N S F O R MA T I O N
first term - second term - third term
dialectic tension
dialectic relation as such
essential difference
the third term is the dialectic relation
breaking open the first term
mediated by the second term
leading to transformation
‘it’s just because of the third term
that the whole can articulate itself
ànd that the difference between the two other terms
can be transcended’
(Schotte, p. 54)
accent on the last of the three terms,
because this is their ‘real goal and real origin’
(‘leur véritable but et leur vraie origine’)
Notice pour introduire le problème structural de la Schicksalsanalyse
In: Jacques Schotte, Szondi avec Freud, Ed. De Boeck-Wesmael, 1990, p. 53
KERNEL
in the ontogenetic order
is involved
in reversed direction
an ontological order
 the goal becomes the origin
the proof of the pudding
is in the eating
IN LIFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQpRgxyyqo
BASIS
FOUNDATION
ORIGIN
BASIS
- Greek: marching, firmness
- in relation to the mother(ly) (f.i. basic trust)
- enables to stay upright
- staying alive ...
FOUNDATION
- sustains the BASIS
- in relation to the Father: Père/Pairs (father/peers)
- in relation to the Law
ORIGIN
- Latin: oriri: being born
- the thrill to live as the subject itself
- ... life that the father and the mother can’t give
the developmental (ontogenetic) perspective:
mother & father  the child
the structural (non-genetic, ontological) perspective
basis
foundation
developmental ‘Mother comes first’ ...
structural
the Father(ly) supports the Mother(ly)
the foundation of the basis
origin
structural perspective
everybody is continually called to find in the first
two terms the germs of its own origin
through transformation of the first two terms
towards a transformation of itself
developmental perspective
the adolescence as the beginning of being oneself
IN ANTHROPOPSYCHIATRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gPulu85q04
Le Prix de
l’Évolution psychiatrique 2009
Leo Ruelens
Naar een nieuwe psychiatrie - Het rebelse denken van Jacques Schotte
Literarte, Kessel-Lo 2010
the typical human psychopathologies
affecting the human person
às human being
4 ground pathologies
thymopsychopathy
- mood disorders
- toxicomania
- psychopathy
perversion
neurosis
psychosis
1) neurosis as the negative of perversion (Freud)
‘Neurose ist sozusagen das Negativ der
Perversion.’
Freud, Drei Abhandlungen zur Sexualtheorie, 1905
‘ the pervert is doing what the neurotic is dreaming of’
(Freud)
2) classes
( DSM )
interactive pathological ground structures
of being entangled in psychopathology
third term
PSYCHOSIS
PERVERSION
second term
THYMOPSYCHOPATHY
first term
NEUROSIS
IN THERAPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZSZVmTzzM
dire
discourir
parler
Sagen
Reden
Sprechen
talking
discoursing
speaking
dire
Sagen
to do a lot of talking
to run out of words
talking
discourir
Reden
discoursing
an intersubjective reference
a subject wants to influence the other(s)
parler
Sprechen
speaking
a real dialogue
transformation: still the same, not the same anymore
giving a new dynamic
by means of the second term (discoursing)
to the first term (talking)
keeping the speech act and therapeutic change open
the heart of the matter
Jean Oury (° 1924)
founder and ‘médecin directeur’ of
‘La Borde’ in Cour- Cheverny (France)
One of the founding fathers of the
‘Psychothérapie Institutionnelle’
‘ouvrir les systèmes institutionnels cloisonnés’
opening the closed institutionnel systems
in the broad sense of the word !
‘dialectiser les systèmes’
dialecting the systems
‘(...)
elle ne débouche en tout cas pas sur une synthèse
clôturante,
mais plutôt sur
une réouverture ou une remobilisation.’
(p. 133)
it does not lead in any way to a closing synthesis
but more to
an opening anew or a mobilisation anew.
open dialogue
The Open Dialogue Approach to Acute Psychosis:
Its Poetics and Micropolitics
Jaakko Seikkula
Mary E. Olson
Family Process, 2003
poetics
tolerance of uncertainty
dialogism
polyphony in social network
tolerance of uncertainty
making talking (dire) possible ...
dialogism
the aim of discoursing
the prevailing discours
polyphony
many voices, still two to tango :
the professional system
the non-professional system
k e r n e l q u e s t i o ns
for
the Open Dialogue approach
- where is speaking (parler, Sprechen)
as the transforming term?
- the third term: crucial or not ?
to speak or not to speak
that’s the question ...
Here, there and everywhere
nothing compares 2 3 ?
mirror stage (Lacan)
master – slave dialectic (Hegel): live and let die
i m p a s s e
*
*
*
*
psychoanalysis
anthropology
philosophy
in life
open Dialogue ...
the third term
breaches
the impasse
the core factor
for the whole
implemented
in philosophy (August Deese)
in psychoanalysis (Lacan: the-Name-of-the-Father)
in anthropopsychiatry (Jacques Schotte)
in life
to be implemented
in the Open Dialogue approach ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LKMogdjm8

similar documents